I’ve sat here for a while now and pondered the path I would take in defending the Adult Parole Board, traversing the idea is something I never thought I could bring myself too, but I am compelled to do just that. I come from an uttermost criminal fraternity so speaking out about this is unquestionably frowned upon but seeing as I have always and in all ways ran my own game, I don’t give a fuck about others opinions. They can stay inside and rot or sit at a bar and drink away the darkness.

There was a point in my sentence for murder where the reality that I would never again see the light of day dawned on me when State parliament was considering keeping me in. Front page articles written by unscrupulous scare mongers of “Nazi To Go Free” kept everyone on the hook, including myself.

I was never convicted of a racially motivated kill nor is it illegal to be associated to the National Socialist ideal anymore than it is to be a Satanist yet it seemed that I was being judged for my Right Wing leanings rather than the crime of murder.

Some here, Steve and Reagan, I am pointing you guys out as the chief protagonists in your hatred for the adult Parole Board and I wholly agree with the guts of your comments however I have to express my gratitude to the APB because if it were not for them and their dogged determination in keeping me out I would have still been languishing inside some maximum security shit hole in lieu of my current position.

It was not easy, parole once initiated was daunting, new faces and instituted understandings to consider and undertake or die….literally. I know what I am and I know what I am capable of, there was no way I was going to spend another day inside if I had to so I was going to walk the line. Make no mistake, had I been forced into a corner there would have been a bloody outcome for sure, it was planned and ready to execute: if I were staying in forever then the system would know about it and bear the brunt of their decision. I knew who I would take out, it would have transcended anything they would have envisioned.

There were a few incidents along the earlier weeks of my release that should have seen me dragged back inside yet I cannot detail anything here other than to say I countermanded their decisions three times. The APB did everything they could and used every trick in the book to keep me out. Be it that they did it out of selfless determination or out of an undying need to not look foolish in the eyes of Parliament, whatever the case they were there for me.

There are and forever will be certain criminals that should be locked away for life and there are those that fall into the case of execution, but seeing as we live in soft cock system where inadequacy and passing blame is accepted as the norm then there will always be cracks in this system of failure and scummy whack jobs like Haigh, Price etc. will fall through and wreak havoc.

Paul Haigh once told me, in the H-Division gym, in intimate detail how he would masturbate his dog and how he fucked his retarded brother; how he and his gammy brother would take turns on their willing sister. I have met some of the worst there is and they should never be released, I have also met plenty who should be released, in many cases the fact that a man wears a CRN, in my opinion, does not make him a criminal. I have met some decent guys that are very much victims of circumstance.

Why would I listen to Haigh you might ask, well to be very honest there was not much in the way of audible recreation so listening to him drone on about how his dog enjoyed licking Haigh’s genitals seemed entertaining…in a sickening way,

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RIP Allison
If I had any ’emotional connection with GBC’ I wouldn’t have argued from day dot that I thought he killed her…..and maintained that position throughout the Trial. It would seem from the Appeals Crt judgement that those that argued and screamed ‘Murder’ may be the ’emotional’ ones. Anyhow, time will tell on that.

If you know what ‘actually happened’, I’m curious why you didn’t present yourself to the DPP, told them and then made yourself available to give that ‘factual’ evidence under oath? It seems it may not be that ‘factual’ but more of an opinion….and of course you’re entitled to that without me accusing you of being Allisons best bud.

I say ‘who ever’ for one simple reason…..nobody is certain. Not the Police, not the Courts, not the myriad of (paid handsomely) ‘Experts’.

Again…if you know for certain, tell the Police so they can charge him with ‘Disposing of a Corpse’ based on your ‘factual’ evidence. They appear to think that they never had enough evidence for that charge. Help ’em out….do your duty….I can’t understand why you’ve kept this factual evidence to yourself.

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Thanks for the explanation BR. It is a complicated system, but it’s also important for confidence and respect in the system to be upheld, that its complicity is not used by criminals to get off lightly via loopholes and technicalities.

I do remember now that there was talk at the time of the initial sentence that he could be found guilty of manslaughter or murder or neither.Of course IMO me the outcome was right.

GBC has had thousands of opportunities between Allison’s ‘disappearance’ and the last day of his trial to admit to manslaughter, He has steadfastly chosen not to, telling lie upon lie instead.

I can not see his lawyers being able to ‘float’ ANY idea that he has not sanctioned or agreed with, so he may still not have officially confessed to anything but is certainly going along with this plan B to try and get years off his sentence and get the hands that killed Allison on her insurance money, which I feel should not be allowed.

We strongly differ on this point but IMO he is guilty of cold blooded murder, everything screams pre-planning, massive and deliberate deception way beyond what would be thought of in a spur of the moment ‘panicked’ attack.

‘Panicked’ he was not. IMO he was a man with a plan….a very callous one….converting a person he no longer had a use for to $$……and he is still trying every which way to ‘play the system’ and execute his plan in some form or another…..

No sympathy from me I’m afraid. I’d like to see murder upheld which is what I honestly believe it was.

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Your theory is all very possible, unfortunately the Appeals Crt has found that it doesn’t get past ‘Beyond a reasonable doubt’ when other theories are introduced….the issue with predominantly circumstantial cases.

I know a lot of people say that Judges live in ivory towers, no grasp of reality etc, but they listen to this stuff and watch the various parties every day of their working life. They would have sat through countless stories of cheating, abuse, retribution, despair, vengeance. Far more than any of us.

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RIP Allison (the page was going skinny again…)

It’s maybe a small picky point, but none of it is a ‘Technicality or a loophole’, which gets people upset when they think it is, and of course we hear ‘technicality’ all of the time when one side loses.

This is just simply ‘evidence’ or the lack of it.

A ‘Technicality’ would be something like a mistake on a Traffic ticket.

A ‘Loophole’ would be poorly worded charges.

Interestingly, while we all know that ‘ignorance of the law is no excuse’ to everyone, there’s only one time when that doesn’t apply……specifically to Politicians when any prosecution under a specific set of circumstances has to prove that they knew the law….how about that….. who’d a thunk it.

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“REWARDS LAND IN JAIL RIOTERS’ LAPS”
‘COMPUTERS FOR PRISONERS WHO CAUSED $12MILLION DAMAGE’
PRISONERS behind a riot that caused $12 million damage could be given personal laptops to access evidence ahead of their prosecution.
One hundred and two prisoners have been charged over the smoking-ban riots last year at Ravenhall Metropolitan Remand Centre in what is believed to be the largest prosecution in Victorian history.

More than 3000 video clips from 14 hours of CCTV footage captured from 100 prison cameras will form part of the brief of evidence.
Three hundred witness statements, 170 exhibits and transcripts from more than 61 intercepted phone calls will also be included.

Prosecutors, who say the evidence will take up four terabytes of data storage, plan to serve briefs of evidence in soft-copy format on portable hard drives in a first for a Victorian criminal trial.

But because accused prisoners who are still in prison would be unable to access the evidence, it has been proposed that they would be provided with laptop computers.

The Melbourne Magistrates’ Court heard yesterday that the laptops would be available to prisoners 24 hours a day, including in private cells during “lock-up”.

Magistrate Suzi Cameron raised concerns about prisoners having access to computers, and questioned whether once handed over, they would be returned.

She said the prosecution had the potential to come “completely unmanageable” because of the number of co-accused.
About half of the inmates have since been released from prison and some now live interstate.
Magistrate Ms Cameron granted prosecutors longer than normal to compile the mammoth brief, which is expected to run in excess of 12,000 pages.

Ten men appeared at court yesterday, two via video link, for a filing hearing where their charges were officially filed with the court.
They have been remanded to reappear in June 2016.

The June 2015 Metropolitan Remand Centre riot, which lasted 12 hours and involved more than 100 prisoners, caused an estimated $12 million damage.

The protest erupted over a looming smoking ban, which came into force on July 1, 2015, and resulted in prisoners remaining in lockdown for several months while prison facilities were repaired.
Rioting Prisoners appearing in the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court were
AARON SAMSON
TAHA SEPEHRANA
DANIEL SMITH
JUSTIN HALL
GARY FIKHMAN
RADE SARAC
SIMON OUDIN
DEJON DOBROSAVLJEVIC

The pictures of some of the rioting prisoners can be seen in the Herald Sun – Thursday, January 14, 2016. http://www.heraldsun.com.au – Shannon.deery@news.com.au

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Yeah…OK. A little bit of anger there. It seems you made an extremely poor choice in a partner. Something you might want to work on. Why on earth would you marry anyone with those traits?

Did he have fancy tatts? Flash car? Fat wallet?

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BR, OK thanks for the legal education. A non-legal perspective:

When murders are premeditated, perpetrators will carefully plan:
– when/where/how to do their dirty deed to avoid being detected as far as possible (eg middle of the night in Brookfield)
– clean up/remove evidence (house had a big clean/tidy in the middle of the night, fancy cups put out in readiness for receiving important ‘visitors’ eg Police, even portrait of GBC and Allison already removed! (huh?), Allison’s blood wiped off inside car, toys packed where she lay/bled in the back of the car, immediately grew beard to hide fingernail scratches on face)
– dump or hide the body (UNDER the Kholo bridge was carefully considered, an ideal place where she would be concealed long enough for DNA and COD evidence to deteriorate, and then can be ‘found’ in a couple of weeks so insurance pay-out can hastily be applied for)
– shift attention elsewhere (place Zoloft packet on Allison’s dashboard, hid her phone ‘on’ but with GPS ‘off’ near their Brookfield home, to keep the search in that area and away from the Mt Crosby bushland as long as possible)
– at all cost plead the 5th! DENY all involvement vehemently even if it makes you look stupid. As long as you do not incriminate yourself and confess, the law can be more concerned about your rights that those lost by your victim, and there’s a good chance you can get away with murder (huh?)

Murderers are not going to supply confessions and video footage of their murders!!! Should they be rewarded for pleading the 5th, being ruthless liars, careful planning of their crimes, high levels of deception and concealing evidence, by letting them get away with murder? Surely not!

IMO the law has to examine the ENTIRE body of evidence, circumstantial and otherwise, and also consider for example:
– whether the perpetrator’s behaviour and level of deception indicates a planned rather than a spur of the moment event (as outlined above)
– motive/desperation ($$$$ to avoid bankruptcy and getting rid of an unwanted but needy wife, promised mistress who was running out of patience that he’d be debt-free and with her by 1 July – a very specific target set)

In round 1 after a trial lasting several weeks a jury did consider all the above and concluded Gerard Baden Clay deliberately murdered his wife. IMO this was a sound judgement.

Now for round 2….the integrity of the appeal court decision has been called into question…the justice system will be put to the test.

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D is that correct what they are saying online that when you got out of jail on your parole in 2005, you were a regular at the Tote Hotel in Collingwood owned by Bruce Milne. The article is titled ‘Hunting Australia’s neo-Nazis, which you would already be aware I guess. Anyway it goes on about this ‘Andy Flemming’ character who labels neo- Nazi’ skinheads as “boneheads” and mentions a mentions you would sit at the bar of the Tote, calling it your local, and that you would sit at the bar and drink, while young lackey’s orbited your infamy. Flemming goes on to say you were hard to miss – like Charlie Manson , had a swastika tattooed on your forehead Then he says, Things boiled over when a punter asked you about it. and the article says you head butted him. The article then colourfully states that the Tote owner Bruce Milne ran the place with laissez-faire philosophy – all were welcome , and censorship was anathema. But neo-Nazi axe murderers?
After the assault, an alliance was formed between the Tote, police and community anti-racism groups. A policy on Nazi symbols was being demanded. Initially Milne hesitated. “If you ban them, you ban Sex Pistols on the jukebox”, Milne says he isn’t racist – he is a libertarian. As it was police that asked you- D, not to return to the Tote and the Tote management endorsed an anti-Nazi symbol policy. Anyway that’s a brief of this long article mentioning White Supremacy groups or white pride or Aussie pride groups in the shadows as Victoria Police call them, the groups being named as Stormfront and Southern Cross Hammerskins and Australia First Party…
You don’t have to reply to this D, this I fully understand, as you would be wanting to put the past all behind you with your former notorious prison background. But if you are not phased about the many things on the internet of which their are making you out as a killer, and in true crime books written against yourself, then I thought it would be of no offence or insult to yourself , to hear the true story from your point of view., direct from the horses mouth, so to speak. Cheers D.
Appreciate your H.Division true stories. Paul Haigh used to give me the creeps. and to be perfectly honest so did you also D, but every prisoner in H.Division I was very wary of, even Chopper Read and Frankie Waghorn. And especially most the H.Division Prison Officers, that you know very well who I’m talking about. I don’t know what any of them are up to now, except for two of them, one was a dickhead bully, I will not mention his name as his wife is currently the Head Governor of a Victorian Women’s prison and his son is going up through the Prison Officer ranks . And the other was Peter Prideaux, he was a good bloke, a firm but fair H.Division screw. Although you may have had a different opinion of him down in the slot.

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I believe that Allison Dickie Baden Clay is deceased, otherwise known as DEAD
I believe that Allison was murdered by SOMEONE.
I believe that Allison’s Murderer is playing with the Law.
I believe that Allison’s husband does not grasp that same situation,.
Correction: Allison’s husband does not WANT to grasp that same situation, least he appears to be implicated.
I believe that that Allison’s husband is a conniving, lying, cheating, deceitful,cunning, manipulative, scheming, dishonest, fraudulent, thieving,l ow life excuse for a “man”:
I believe that he, Allison’s husband; might have friends in high places.
All that belief of mine might be connected. Might not. Dunno.
End result: Allison is dead.
Husband only concerned about himself.Even now.
Draw own conclusions: Use common sense. Use historical data. Use historical parameters.
Delete emotional or sentimental data.
Use common sense, Use science. Use understanding.
Learn what “Deriding the Law” means.
Hint: Toss a bit of religion in for flavour. (That’s what a guilty marked man usually does)
This is a text book “domestic violence” or whatever you want to name it scenario.
It is Murder.It is killing. It is intentional or un-intentional or how-ever you want it.
The end result is the same.
One murdered. One murderer.

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What you’ve highlighted in your closing post is exactly what the Appeals Crt was trying to correct.

Peoples assumption that “intentional or un-intentional” equals Murder. It just simply doesn’t.

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All possible. My major issue with those possibilities is why do it in his own home with his kids there, when so many things could go wrong. (No evidence at all that the kids were ‘drugged’)

Why remove the photo? Wouldn’t it be better for him if he showed a loving family?…..I’d say she’d removed it. Men just generally don’t care that about knick knacks in the house. Women (generally) are the ones who have to adjust ‘images’ in the house depending on what’s happening in their life.

Using ‘the good tea set’…..it’s not 1950 anymore. I use antique or Fine Bone China everyday for every meal….. Why?…. Because every one of my female friends have told me to use it…..don’t stick it in a cupboard gathering dust.

McHUGH…..the bit on the side. No honest commitment to her…..ever. He played the field constantly, irrespective of telling her what she wanted to hear…..which she agreed with under oath.

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BR I think most people understand the difference between intentional and unintentional, and are not assuming them to be the same. However in this case I believe it was intentional = murder.

Allison was not the party in the BC relationship who was doing the provocation. So if anyone could have justified having been provoked to the point of voluntary manslaughter during any of their spats about his infidelity, it would have been Allison – NOT Gerard.

The worst I expect Allison may have done that night was to refuse to ‘obey’ him regarding his mistress’s wish that Allison must not attend the real estate conference the next day. This would have been cause for an argument but does not justify killing her! He CHOSE to do just that.

It became abundantly clear after her ‘disappearance’ and during his trial that he did not care a hoot about Allison, was sick and tired of pretending to play along with her wish to save the marriage, and dearly wanted to be rid of her. In the context of preceding enquiries about her life insurance, paying it in spite of being in debt to the tune of nearly $1million, plus the fact that it just happened to be +/- the amount he needed to save his self-important self from the embarrassment of bankruptcy, and the very telling promise he had made his mistress that he would be debt-free and with her as a free man by 1 July – merely weeks away, as well as MANY indicators of pre-planning and well considered deception as I have already listed in previous posts, IMO it was INTENTIONAL, ie MURDER.

No ‘correction’ was required by the appeals court – the original sentence was correct – and clearly it’s not just me who believe so, or else the appeals court decision would not currently be challenged. Time will tell.

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RIP Allison
I agree that most people understand the difference. My comment was only really just directed to that particular post where the difference didn’t seem to matter.

Anyhoo….

You seem to contradict yourself with the….. “So if anyone could have justified having been provoked to the point of voluntary manslaughter (or ‘Attempted’…..my comment) during any of their spats about his infidelity, it would have been Allison – NOT Gerard.”

To which I agree wholeheartedly…..and the face scratches appear to prove at least some sort of assault on him.

You then contradict this by saying…..”The worst I expect Allison may have done ….(etc)….”

I expect the Appeals Crt found exactly that….the… “if anyone could have justified having been provoked to the point of voluntary (‘Involuntary’ actually…..the ‘heat of passion’ defence, but I know what you meant)…..etc…..it would have been Allison.

All of these probabilities just brings the weight of evidence down beyond what’s required for ‘Beyond a reasonable doubt’ and that’s what it’s all about….the balance of probabilities.

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BR it looks like I did not make my meaning totally clear.

I meant if Allison had hypothetically killed Gerard, her very provocative, emotionally abusive and perpetually unfaithful husband, I would consider voluntary manslaughter justified as HER sentence.

However for Gerard, the provoker, who dearly wanted to be rid of Allison (not the other way around), the one who urgently needed $1 million to get out of the massive debt situation he had placed himself in, to kill Allison the victim not the provoker in the situation to get rid of her and obtain her $1 million life insurance, his sentence would NOT be manslaughter in my books, it will be murder.

Allison clearly fought for her life, but with Gerard being larger, heavier and stronger than her, she did not have a chance. She also would never had anticipated that he was willing to kill her, so she would have been taken by surprise too. He went through with what he had planned IMO.

Allison’s life insurance and his immediate and permanent freedom from her were too big temptations to resist….

Anyway, we can all think what we want, the fact that the appeal did not go down uncontested means there are 2 schools of thought, not just among the public but also in legal circles. You and I clearly sit on opposite sides of this argument.

It is good as you had pointed out earlier that we can debate our different opinions calmly and rationally. And it is good that in such complicated cases there are multiple layers of law to nut out what the actual TRUTH is, and determine the most fair and just outcome.

Nevertheless a very sad case, with no winners, just losers all round. The best we can hope for is truth and justice.

The die have been cast, what will be will be – we can now just wait and see…

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For sure! The guy is out there and thankfully will never again see the outside of the walls that him.

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Hi Steve,

Bruce Milne would not know me if he fell over me nor would Andy Flemming. In fact after I was banned from the Tote I deliberately walked back in and sat at the bar whilst Milne was there serving as he did most Friday or Saturday nights as he loves a crowd and ordered a beer from him, he did not know me nor did anyone else for that matter. That was the very next Friday, I was looking for a fight, I wanted it. These same weak as piss leftist scum were the same heartless self absorbed pinko filth who used to set up there book stands in Bourke street Mall and there would be twenty of us lined up, booted up ready to kill and they knew it yet they would continue on their path to stupidity. Once their tables were set up we would go in for the kill. They would run away screaming and we would rip there propaganda to shreds. When I was in H-Division awaiting my murder trial the cops came in and got me to sign a waver for charges against me for $3.400 in damages to property owned by the International Socialists. I cannot go into details but I miss those days, we felt like Vikings storming an Anglian shore and reaping as we destroyed everything in front of us. It comes down to if they knew me then why did they physically not do anything? I’ll tell you why, because unlike them I will fight back and they knew that.

It is not illegal to wear a swastika in this country and the sign on the doors of the Tote carry as much meaning and weight as a feather in the wind. They can ask someone to exit the premises for unruly behavior but for symbols be they offensive or not they are open to a huge law suit and Milne knows this. They get a shit ton of Punks in there who wear swastikas and all sorts of things on their ratty jacks like “Fuck the Police” for one thing, is that not offensive?

It was the APB that prohibited me from going back there to the Tote not the jacks. The filth never saw me for anything as the “victim” refused comment. Funny that!

There was no crowd around me, I like things low key and very quiet, there were two of us and then a third joined who asked about Romper Stomper and I was taking to him about that. The guy that was “headbutted” well, this pest was a Commie stooge set up buy his so-called comrades to antagonize me. He was told three times to get away from me, when he put his hand on my shoulder he hit the floor, blood streaming from his nose and mouth. Who it was that floored this idiot I cannot say but true to form ( or lack there of ) his mates never came to his aid. I believe it started out as this: an all girl band was playing that night and after the gig I was chatting the drummer up at the bar. Some tosser wanted in on it but he was given the fuck off well quick. She and I done the dirty in the toilet and returned to the bar area, she went off for drinks when this dick head showed up.

The papers say I have a “swastika” tattooed on my neck, I do NOT have a swastika on my neck. Thus continues the lies propagated by journalist scum. Same as online, what you read is second hand information made up by whom ever to suit their needs. Cowards like Flemming and co knew me, if they knew where I was and where I sat, keep in mind I had only been to the Tote twice and only because I learned they had said if I walked in there they would throw me out…..they never had the balls and there security were a couple of drunks.

Yes, I am in numerous books 14 and counting and there is one being written as I type this about myself. Romper Stomper was about me and my crew with numerous facts omitted save for a few for artistic interest. I care nothing for my past or those that suffered for it. I sound unrepentant because I am, these days I liken a past to that of a cancer that requires extrication, so it is excised. Today I am in life number two, there will ot be a third.

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I sure we all had that feeling a few days ago when he opened his mouth

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Here we go again, same old, same all, another cunning scumbag rapist inmate MICHEAL CARDAMONE who had been in jail for 9 years and set free presumed rehabilitated in prison?, and no doubt deemed safe by the powers that be to be unsupervised on parole and trusted to be back into the community that he would hurt no victim, no more.
And was the Wangaratta and district community aware or told that he had been let out of jail as a known imprisoned rapist sex offender and was living back in the community. – NO – Of course not!…It just goes to show, HOW MANY, of these known convicted violent sex offenders are freely unsupervised creeping and roaming around our communities or living in our streets nearby. It would be truly frightening if we really knew just how many of these ‘dogs’ are blended secretly back in amongst us! Why isn’t this maggot dogs sex offending record made available to the community and where he will be living, when he is rehabilitated out of jail. If he got a minimum sentence of 9 years in jail, he would be a nasty piece of shit.
How can we get hold of his past criminal record and what got him sent to prison, in the first place.
Make you furious doesn’t it our continual justice system forgiveness of deviate violent sex offenders. And this maggot dog is now a serial sex offender, which makes it even worse, that he was back roaming in the community!…

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Very interesting Dane, thanks for being open about your wild past. I look forward to reading your book if ever you get it published. Should be a best seller. Cheers. I didn’t know the Romper Stomper Movie was true and loosely or reasonably based on yourself and your skinhead crew. If so, you may disagree on this, but Russell Crowe, and the other skinhead actors , I thought did a really good convincing acting role as I remember your crew in B.Division and on the city streets, looked the same as in the movie. Don’t be offended, but you boys were very scary thugs in your days. Before I even knew who you were and your names in B.Division Pentridge Dane, there was only a few prisoners that I was more wary of, that being big Danny Gallagher,Slav Percerep, Peter Gibb, Rocco Barca, Chris Binse, Mick Devlin, Terry Flannery, Nick Apostiledes, Keithy and Noel Faure and Kevin Gutsell , Lee Blackler, Brett White, Danny Heaney and most of his heavy B.Division 2 tier drug dealing henchmen. Youse all used to look upon me with real hatred when I was on the tiers and doing the cell searches, banging the stick on the bars windows and especially during strip searches, which I fully understand, but I was only doing my job. I hated strip searches or doing the dick and bums as much as the prisoners hated us for doing them. A filth dirty, smelly disgusting screws duty. Anyway thanks for talking about your past again Dane.

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