Isn’t it amazing that she rose through the ranks as high as Superintendent of a NSW nick , which is the same as a senior Governor in a Victorian nick. And She would have been like Vera Bennett (Vinger Tits) or Joan Fergerson (The Freak) with some Bea Smith and Margo Gaffeney in the mix. A nasty slag bitch. There was a female power tripper like her in H.Division , her name was Anne Collins a real butch bitch, well suffice to say the nothing to lose prisoners in the slot, made her work hard for her pay down there. If you read in the Lounge, what Wulgar , who served hard time in H.Division, said what happened to her, the butch ugly bitches attitude to prisoners , didn’t go down well at all. As you say Bill, these power tripper Customs moles were very likely reject prison officers or coppers before they worked at the airport. If we go back to the case , here on Aussie Criminals, a few lines below this, last year of that very sick dying Asian man who was thrown in the cells and left for dead , instead of getting him a ambulance and taking him to hospital, the butch bitches treated him instead like garbage at that Victorian Frankston Police Station, a female bully Sergeant and her female bully Senior Constables . and they have all got off, no charges laid and remain in the Victorian Police Force, even kept their rank!…
In Victoria’s Prison Service – Corrections Victoria their is a female senior boss in charge of the whole show. Jan Shuard – The Corrections Commissioner of every Victorian modern jail including H.M.Barwon Prison ‘. As can be seen in ‘Life Inside Barwon Prison’. ‘Take a tour of the Metropolitan Remand Centre ‘. ‘Visiting a prisoner-Prohibited item’ – I guess that includes Diesel and gas bottles, as well… This female Superintendent didn’t study here rules and regulations too well after 25 years of prison service in NSW Prisons ?… Watch -‘One Way Ticket’ (1997) – Full -The real events of Victorian female Prison Officer Heather Parker, who enabled a notorious Victorian prisoner Peter Gibb and another prisoner Archie Butterly to escape from the Melbourne Remand Centre in 1993. There real names not used in the film!…

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Thanks for your advise Wulfgar, I don’t mean to question you like a detective, but please understand, that before I became a Victorian Prison Officer , had for years tried to join the Victoria Police Force and would of like to have become a detective. So even though this was never to eventuate , I do think I still have a inner gift as a investigator, i.e solving of crimes, even if it is only on Aussie Criminals, I feel I can still be of some use to society , without the para military restrictions of a uniform and having to be answerable and accountable to a team of superiors rank and file of bureaucracy. Hence forth this is why I have questioned you and checked you , out, because I like to know who o dealing with. There is the saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Now I am not saying for a minute that you Wulfgar or Dane for that fact are my enemy. But go back in time to when I was a screw at Pentridge prison. I to be truth fully I did view Dane and skin heads or neo Nazis as the enemy, more out of fear from his and their reputation as a violent Neo Nazi. And if you remember me in the slot of H.Division and B.Division, I would have not been friendly towards youse, or especially any of the inmates, that you have just named. But I have to say here and now, that I show you the utmost respect, for the 1989 B.Division prisoners list that you have just listed, because, this is confirmation, that only some one that served in Pentridge in the late 1980’s could have known. So I will conclude herby, that you must have known me. I had my suspicions for quite a while that you were a Pentridge Prison Officer rather than being a actual inmate of B.Division. And you are right, with some good detective work I can eliminate all the prisoners that served in both B.Division and H.Division and bingo, I know who you possibly are. I can just tick of my old muster lists and narrow you down, as I disliked most inmates, especially in B.Division, and to be 100% honest with you, all the crims you listed I didn’t like them, and I am sure they all hated me even more.
I will tell you something, in regards to Prisoner Kevin Miles, which still haunts me to this day. One night on a First watch, Kevin Miles banged up and want some medications passed through his trap. I said no to him, it was against the rules to pass anything through to a prisoner after lock up!. Well Kevin Miles was I guess was hanging out for a fix of drugs and was probably on Rohypnol overdose, or just plain crazy or whatever, and probably would have had his request to pass drugs or meds, through his trap, by the usual rostered B.Division screws. But by my refusal to pas anything to him, I automatically sent him into a violent rage, possible by my inexperience at this time, with unstable drug using prisoners, which B.Division was full of at this time in 1989.
Anyway, Kevin Miles, started banging up and yelling at me calling out my name – Mr Myself……, your a fucking dog, I want to see the senior, chief Governor, and so on he went. Then he started to flood his cell with water and all of number 1 tier, started to flood also, causing many other B.Division prisoners to start banging up and abusing me with a rage. Kevin Miles then started a fire in his cell, toilet bowl and set fire to his mattress, causing all of B.Division to fill with smoke. With all this prisoner commotion of yelling, abuse and banging up on their cell doors and B.Division, looking like it was about to burn up on fire. The Pentridge Security Squad and the Metropolitan Fire Brigade Fire engines had arrived through the main gate of Pentridge , outside B.Division and were preparing for the worst scenario of B.Division on firs, as the smoke was billowing out down the tier into the main B.Division entrance. Anyway the Security Squad marched down 1 tier to Kevin Miles cell , tried to negotiate with him, but this made him worse, he was yelling he is going to kill me , that fucking dog, Mr Myself………FOR GIVING HIM A HARD TIME. I only refused to pass anything through to him in a polite manner. That was it. But Kevin Miles, had to be let out of his cell, as it was unknown the seriousness of the fire, and after the Jika Jika deaths in custody from a prisoner lit fire in Jika, Prison Officers in Pentridge were very precautionary of fires in the cell blocks, lit by protesting prisoners.
The Governor and the Chief Prison Officer, who were the only ones authorised to open a prisoners cell door after lock up. then proceeded with caution to let Kevin Miles out of his cell. I stood back from a distance for safety reasons, and as soon as Kevin Miles saw me he come running at me pushing through the security screws, with a pillow slip, he had prepared for me in his cell and swinging it full of soft drink cans, yelling I’m going to fucking kill you fucking cunt Mr Myself…. I did the wise thing and quickly ran down 1 tier while the security squad grabbed him and restrained him, handcuffing him yelling and kicking and frogmarch dragged him off down to H.Division. I suspect he would have copped a beating, which doesn’t fit well with me, but once in the custody of the security squad, they enforced their own methods of subduing inmates, and the bash was their methods of prisoner restraint they favoured!… Now about 1 week later, he was charged by Governors court in H.Division, for verbal and threating behaviour to a Prison Officers and destruction of Government Property, being his cell, mattress, and fittings and deliberately stating a fire and flooding his cell and damage to B.Division. and the inconvenience of the Metropolitan Fire Brigade being summoned to the gates of Pentridge Prison.
I never had to go to the H.Division Governors court hearing, I know they were often kangaroo courts, run by Governor Clive Williams, Kevin Miles was still furious, probably with good reason, and went off again and had to be restrained in the brutal H.Division style harsh manner , which would have been a severe frog marching and bashing in the tunnel. I later heard that he had self mutilated him self, and had died from a drug overdose. I still don’t know if this is what happened to him in H.Division, or where ever he eventually was sent to ?
Now to this day, I still don’t know the truth of what really happened to him down in H.Division, but I feel that if I had simply passed some panadol through his cell door trap in B.Division, maybe this incident would of never happened, and he would not have lost the plot and flooded and set fire to his cell, which caused him to be shipped down to the slot of H.Division, were he got a good bashing by those brutal twisted screws most likely, which would have pushed his state of mind and sanity to the limits, causing him to slash himself up or overdose in H.Division? This proves that I was honestly not cut out for being a Prison Officer, because this type of incident haunted me, and I , unlike the tough H.Division Screws, I could not just forget about him, and put, whatever happened to him behind me!.. Kevin Miles, I don’t know what crime he committed to get put in Tough B.Division , but he was to me a real hot head, probably from drug use, and from the moment I worked in B.Division, he took a instant disliking towards me, as did many other Prisoners in B.Division, especially Kevin Guttsell and Peter Gibb, Nick Apostiledes, Richard Mladnich, Slav Percerep, danny Heaney, Danny Gallagher, Keith Faure etc who seemed to walk around the tiers as they did run the place at that time as the heavies. I could feel the tension in the air, when ever I was close near them. The truth is they all would have easily had the chance anytime to drag me into their cells and fuck me up! the looks in their eyes at me, was that of hatred and backed up by the corrupt permanent B.Division screws and seniors, chiefs were not any better, all hardcore screws and also and I know they all distrusted my in their drug filled domain !… The truth of the matter I was scared shitless and insecure of every inmate, every minute I was in B.Division, even more so than H.Division, which although worse on the inmate, was more military ordered on the H.Division Prison Officers, due to the prisoners down there being segregated and in solitary confinement cells. I would of been scarred of you to Wulfgar, and I don’t know if I ever spoke to you in B or H.Division as after the Kevin Miles , fire and incident, I never trusted any crim in B.Division, and that included big Dane, who I didn’t know his name at that time and Chris Binse, every one in there, every one seemed dangerous and hardcore and all the skin heads they all looked straight out of Romper stomper, so I feared the Neo Nazis as well. B.Division to me was a very scary hell hole place to be locked up in! If you were friends with Kevin Miles, I can fully understand you for now hating my guts. But do understand this, I was a unexperienced Prison Officer, way out of my depth in a place like Pentridge B.Division – E.Division – A.Division and H.Division. I just wasn’t tough enough or equipped to be a screw. Prior to being a screw, I wanted to be a copper, so being a screw was second choice to being a copper and I was before this only working as a hospital orderly- wardsman in a aged care hospital, so looking back, becoming a Prison Officer, especially in a nick like H.M.Pentridge was setting myself up for failure.
It strange though after having experience Pentridge, speaking for myself here, I have no fear of anything much anymore. It like leaving Pentridge Prison was like walking out of the gates of hell, it could not get much more worse. Well except for being sent to Port Phillip or Barwon Prison!…

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I have no idea where Kevin Miles died, I believe some 20 plus years ago now I was told he overdosed on the outside. He was never a friend of mine, I hold no memorial interest in him or his ilk as they reap what they sew.
Honestly I remember you and would have spoken to you, I would have had to in order to get a towel or something other from the store, organize a visit or a property form, anything. In no way do I recall you as being anything other than an honest screw, polite and to the point. Dane remembers you from H-Div. and said you were one of only three in there that he would not hurt because unlike the others screws that were absolute mongrels you never crossed that invisible line between friend and enemy.
There is not a single prisoner that likes a screw, perhaps there are those who harbor the odd inclination to be a screw that are prisoners but I really cannot see that as being inside deprives one of almost every emotion, you have to become so much more than you can be, be the hammer or the anvil be so to say.

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For anyone interested:

Inside Story
Born Bad
• 8.40pm – 9.40pm
• NBN
• Tonight
The shocking story of Matthew Milat, the troubled teenager whose obsession with his uncle, serial killer Ivan Milat, drove him to murder a mate – on his 17th birthday. Hosted by Leila McKinnon.

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Twisted bastard this kid I hate to think what he practiced killing on before he built up the guts to actually kill a human.

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Steve here are some names of those I was in H-Division with in 1991.
Richard Light
Frank Waghorn
Roy “Red Rat” Pollitt
Chris Binse
Julian Knight
Craig Minogue
Mark “Chopper” Read
Raymond “Mr Stink” Edmonds
Greg “Bluey” Brazel
Shane Fellows
Paul Haigh
Doug Jackson
Peter Allen
Peter Reid
Graham Moore
Calvin Jackson
Ronnie Visser
Martin Bayston
Gary Webb (David)
Jamie Whelan
Peter Gibb
Craig Dow
Craig Maize
That is a short list of thse who were in there when I was there.

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Bea Smith and vinegar tits combined I wonder what the reason was behind her stupid attempt how dumb is that she lost the plot.

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That whole Milat Family are a strange lot. Ivan’s younger brother George Milat claims he was a victim of Ivan Father, Steven Milat, who beat them, the 14 Milat children and they were possibly sexually molested by their father. He also claims he was bullied and beat up by older brother Ivan, who was bad tempered control freak, so the only one who became a serial murderer is smiling Ivan Milat, and his nephew. One of his brothers that does seems normal and different to the rest of them, is the builder Boris Milat , he seems to be straight and narrow, and thinks Ivan, did all the murders alone. As he was the only really violent sibling. The rest of them, say Ivan did all the murders on his own. Ivan says he didn’t do it and still continues to deny the crimes, the NSW Police Detective in charge of the backpacker killer investigation ,Superintendent Clive Small say’s only Ivan could have done the murders, even initially two people where suspected , Ivan Milat was such a controlling in charge person, he would not want to share his glory or satisfaction which another person and had an Aladdin’s goldmine, for all the stolen property around him, full of firearms and ammunition, the murder weapons, blood on rope used to tie up a victim, as used at the crime scene, victims rucksacks, Ivan says he knew nothing about the weapons or stolen property in his home and possession, of which the murder weapons were camouflaged , other camouflaged firearms, he admitted were his? He had a photograph of his girlfriend wearing one of the murdered backpackers favourite shirt worn by one of the backpacker murder victims. And furthermore in his home, full of hunters trophies of his murders, their was so much more of all the victims property and their clothing in his possession, linking him as the only suspect of being the serial murderer , even tents in his home ? but they did check out all his brothers, but found no direct links or evidence of them with Ivan, at the time of any of the murders, so if Ivan Milat, as he says didn’t do it , someone close to him or an associate to him had to do do the murders or at least helped him in some way? Especially the frenzied horrible way the backpackers were interfered with raped tortured and eventually brutally slaughtered and butchered , stabbed, bludgeoned , shot and even a head severed and disposed of in the Belanglo State Forest, could it of all only been by Ivan murdering hands alone? Ivan has never admitted to anything, an maintains his innocence, even though forensic and crime scene evidence proves otherwise!… His brothers all have solid alibis of where they were when the murders took place, except Ivan? There all a bloody creepy scary lot of rednecks, with local bush knowledge of the area, straight out of ‘deliverance’ the movie!… I doubt, one particular brother, could not have suspected or have known what Ivan was up to in Belanglo, as they often worked together in Timber cutting industry and their wild criminal history goes way back and Ivan had his murder trophies stashed at his own home but gave away various other items, to his brothers, which was found at his brothers properties, like ties, rubber gloves and camping equipment, clothing all stolen from the backpacker murder victims, so wouldn’t some of his brothers ask questions wear he got them, or find this strange that Ivan was giving away or hiding this property at their at their properties?. Also it is suspected Ivan killed more victims than he has been caught for. One victim he bound him up and severed his head with a sword, others he shot and mutilated. There is a unsolved eighth victim , 18 year old Peter Leches, shot , murdered and found full of bullet riddled holes, suspected by Ivan Milat, found off a fire track in June Nolan’s State Pine Plantation Forrest , but forensic evidence of the Ruger rifle bullets, the same as used by Ivan Milat, were to deteriorated and could not be used in court as evidence against Ivan Milat. And another unidentified female victim , known so far only as Angel also found in Belanglo Forest while Ivan Milat was in jail?.. It has been considered a possible copycat , as Ivan Milat was in jail when the victim was found, but he will never be ruled out for it? Case still unsolved?…. So did Ivan do all this on his own or with some help?… And as for young copycat Matthew Milat, the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree. Like uncle like nephew, and just as cocky and unremorsefully evil, of horrible sadistic brutal murder. They are all natural born killers. And they often start out by cruelty on torturing and killing of animals, sadly. Paul Denyer , a similar kind of evil stalker and murder, tortured and killed kittens, before he horribly killed 3 young women. Ivan Milat is serving 7 Natural Life sentences, plus 6 years for attempted abduction in Goulburn Supermax, he will never be released and die in prison. And so should his nephew Matthew Milat!… Rot in jail!… His Brother George Milat say’s its his fault for being in jail now, and what he does in there he doesn’t really care , he has admitted he was the backpacker murderer , not publically, but only to his mother visiting him in Goulburn Prison and that he has done 28 or 29 murders, so says younger brother George Milat ? Police say they connect him to about 3 or 4 murderers that they know about, but for which there is not enough evidence to charge him with?…

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Thanks Wulfgar, for your list. I have to say very bad, I know them all, some bloody scary, their were some interesting guests in Her Majesties H.Division. Do you recall Queen Elizabeth’s photo above the H.Division Box visits room. I don’t think the Queen ever came here somehow to visit anyone in the slot!… I come across every single one of them, in various divisions around Pentridge, when they weren’t down the slot. All except Martin Bayston. Was he ever in B.Division with the skin heads, Mick Lloyd and Danny Targoosze, I don’t think I ever bumped into him, and that I think may of been a good thing, if he did what he was jailed for. How long did he get in jail, is he still on jail, or in for something else?
Did you know that Peter Allen was picked up from H.M.Loddon Prison in a stretch Limousine and driving all round the town of Castlemaine, then back to Melbourne celebrating his what was to be his short lived freedom. It has been alleged he at this time in the 1990’s and 2000’s still controlled all the drug trafficking in Victorian Prisons. I guess that’s jail drug trafficking business success how he could afford a limo to pick him up at the prison gates, and tour him around town Most released prisoner get thrown out the gate, and have to walk a few kilometres on foot to the nearest railway station or hail a taxi, but not Peter Allen, he seemed to have a better success business than his junky psychotic brother Dennis Allen. But more low profile than Victor Pierce. Peter Gibb also was picked up after he got out of prison on the Prison Officer Heather Paker and Archie Butterly escape from Melbourne Remand Centre in a stretch limousine. How did you rate Peter Gibb in the pecking order of Pentridge B.Division or H.Division. My experience of him he seemed to be on the top of the pecking order! He was bashed and died from a heart attack from some of his enemies after he got out of jail.
Wulfgar I was just reading about Martin Bayston, as I knew who he was , but I don’t remember him in Pentridge. And its surprising what comes up, is this site called slackbastard,, I sure you are aware of this site has to say. Well it shocked me !… Anyway it goes on after a long history and scaremongering and its says words to the effect of on 30/12/1994 a certain prisoner was quote: To be murdered by 5 of Australia’s toughest prisoners and they went to see somebody that he was to be murdered. The committee was a murderer , a drug dealer, an armed robber and two brothers with violent records. It then goes on to say that this person put himself on protection, was moved to Barwon, but threating notes were passed under his cell door, so he was moved again to K.Division. in with Paul Denyer, Mr Stinky and Julian Knight. Is any of this true, and what were the consequences of this meeting of these committee of heavy crims and especially who were names of these Australia’s toughest prisoners and what division , unit or jail were they from and where are they now, are they all still in jail, and do you know where they are? Also who were the Prison Officers and Governors etc, that were behind all this ?!. I would be interested find out who they were. I find this all rather concerning, as I know how systematically corrupt many were and still are in Corrections Victoria. There is also some sinister writings, I read under tote : Go Directly (Back) To Jail? Posted on 09/01/2006. Its all very full on reading. Also read Thank God for Justice – Intermix forums- 10/09/2005. And : The Nizkor Project Shofar FTP Archives File: people /b/bayston.martin/skins-Australia.

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Giiday Wulfgar,

     Thanks for yoru posts mate. Really enjoy yours and the former PO's exchanges.

   Quick question for you mate.  Do you recall a bloke named James Hughes. He served time in the Late 70's for amed robbery where he shot a guard and was shot himself. He was released about 1985-86 but  was the convicted of manslaughter of an old bloek in a boarding house  around 1987.
    The Former PO did recall him but didn't have to many dealings with him apparently

     I worked with James Hughes at the Ammo factory in Footscray for 2-3 years. He eventuall got the are form there for getting a little too punchy in the Work place.  

   About a year later he tried to rob the ordinance factroy in Maribyrnong where  all his troubles started.

   So just wondering if you could offer any insights mate.

   Cheers and thanks again for your posts,

  Mike

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Martin Bayston is Dane’s co-offender, he was never in B-Div. he was in H-Div. briefly though. We have no idea where he is but and are not looking. There was a rumor he had moved in with some black sheila down in Sale after his release, who knows. It pains me to think that this once proud white man has sold his soul to reside with the enemy if in fact it were true. He recieved a year less than Dane for the murder sentence, 14 yrs. If he has been locked back up I am unaware of it, like I said we are not interested.
Slackbasterd is a full on leftist anarchist site dedicated to liberal arseholes that take delite in fighting for refugee rights and pushing for Marxist Socialist ideals that are no part of any forward thinking nation. Anything said there is regurgitated rubbish manufactured by equally as repugnant journalists from such overrated jewspapers as the Herald-Scum etc. Their site is full of viruses as well.
Who cares about Peter Allen? Did you know his nick name was “Mum” because he would carry two Mum deodorant bottles filled with heroin, picks, pills etc up his arse back into the prison from visits? He was one of the chattiest bastards going, would never change his bed sheets when in the slot, he was there over a year once and never to my knowledge changed his sheets…I was the laundry billet and it was common knowledge he was a pig! His getting a limo home is no big deal as it costs today around $220- to get one from Sale to Melbourne, it was a thought.
Let me give you the drum Steve, Dane was confronted with five armed guys that had initially had dropped notes on him to the screws, they chose not to act but watch the outcome. Petere Allen, Victor Pierce, Doug Jackson Graham Moore and some dumb wog fronted Dane and told him to get out of the unit because a news article had come out stating he hated junkies and that said junkies needed killing. The article can be found online. Now these so-called tough heavies that bashed younger, weaker crims for their runners and medication did not have the balls to enter Dane’s cell even after he offered them to come in, not one would walk through the doorway they apparently stood quiet and Allen had a shiv. Dane told him to come in but he refused. They made threats that could not be followed through with, some time later after they all buggered off the screws came to Dane’s cell and told him the Guv. wanted a word, from there he was taken straight into protection as a phone call came in via the outside confirming these guys were going to kill him. Had there been no call from the outer I suspect there would have been something go on, I know Dane would have taken one or two with him, he is that sort of guy, they knew that as well and it showed as the cowards stood in the door full of threats but not the dash to come in and act on it.
Gov. Spadano was pretty much behind this as was Gov. Shane Kelly.
Steve that is the very last thing I will say regarding Dane, I ask that you not bring him up again, I have asked you this before, should you wish to play cop then do it with someone other. Keep in mind whatever you read from SB that has come from the papers is nothing but drivvel concocted by a screw that has rang the papers to stir drama, propagating such shit is an insult to intelligent folk. You have said that you wouldn’t bring anything up and again you have, does your word mean nothing or are you just trolling for lols?

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Hi Aussie Mike,

I do not know your buddy that you have asked about, possibly he and I would have shared a yard back in the day but I have met so many guys it is difficult to recall everyone. Sorry to not be of any help to you perhaps if you keep searching the web something may crop up. I know recently I searched for a mate of mine that I had not seen for well over 25 years and found he was killed, murdered inside Sir David Longlands Correctional Center in 1995. It took some searching but I found it deep inside a page within a page on a crime site.

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Matthew Milat what an evil son of a bitch in fact I dont think his surname is really Milat because Ivan Milat is his great uncle. Its a fair dinkim real live horror story the hole family are mad cruel, redneck bastards. Ivan looks like a grinning fool I dont know how a screw wouldnt feel tempted to blow that bastards head off his shoulders in supermax. He should be dead along with the useless other mistake Matthew. Mistakes are born into the world and then in a cruel twist an innocent person is born to be later murdered by them.

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The stupidest dumb and dumber thing is that she as, I would of thought would have been a well experienced and responsible well trained security Prison Officer , especially from her very long service in jails and especially with her responsible leadership from superintendent rank? She and her co-offenders tried to kill her husband, in this bizarre amateur comedy capes way, by attempting to ignite hard to light diesel fuel to attempt to make an explosion of the gas bottles which is a dangerous thing in itself even if petrol was used and could of blown themselves up as well as her husband. Pouring diesel fuel poured around the gas bottles and the car and the road, how were they going to get it to burn, throw a cigarette at it? Using easy ignited petrol, with a match or Zippo lighter or a Molotov cocktail throw at the gas bottle to explode them, might have done the job, but still ridiculously insane an dangerous!… For a experienced Superintendent Prison Officer, for 25 years, who would have watched, searched for and exposed dangerous prison incidents in the planning of the prisoners sharp criminal minds, with their ingenious cunning improvisations of ingenious methods of harming other inmates in jail were the inmates manufacture their own clever weapons from any available prison or outside sourced and smuggled material, and methods of escape and even terrorist style explosive devices from smuggled petrol, taken from prison lawn mowers or match heads, fertiliser, I cant believe, she thought she could set some diesel on fire. I wonder how she was smart enough to hold the responsible position of maintaining a close watch and security over hardened and street smart cunning criminals ,in a High of Maximum Security jail. without them escaping from her in the past. Make you feel real safe with a idiot like her in charge of the security of prisoners in a jail?…

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Inside Story was worth watching very disturbing.

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Why would anyone throw their life away on a piece of shit like Milat. If we lived in a healthy progressive society there would be no need for vigilantism, that smirk he has would be no more because he would have swung from a rope or rode the lightning! At best we can hope he dies inside from another crim.

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There will be so many unanswered questions and ifs and buts I think its only human nature to run for your life under the extreme circumstances if each hostage had a window of opportunity to sneak away Im guessing it may have been really hard to communicate. Sometimes helping someone else out can end up backfiring and costing your own life. I noticed each individual interveiwed showed different reactions to Liz Hayes questions for eg the chinese girl was smiling maybe it was nerves or just happy to be alive, the blonde lady was deep and distraught and the older woman was as cool as a cucumber they are all different reactions. Its just so extremely sad and cruel beyond words that the manager Tori lost his life, and the barrister Mrs Dawson was caught in the crossfire. I put the blame on the people responsible for not locking this bastard up when he was an obvious threat theyre the ones with blood on their hands.I grapple with the whys of it all we all do to some extent and we may never really be at peace as to how it all ended.

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have a look at him… enough said.

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If I’m not being out of line am I, but . What was Dean Barry and Mick Hutchens doing time for in B.Division. And why was Charlie Patti squaring off with Dean Barry in the chook pen and why did this Dean Barry stab this Mick Hutchins. I’m just curious, as to why you mention this. When I was still a screw, with just one push of a button, I could answer this kind of information on the prison computer called the PIMMS. I could just enter a Prisoners CRN, and everything about, him or her, their current whereabouts, in what jail, there current parole, location, or Community Corrections Order location could be found. also a very detailed list of all their current prison behaviour and disciplinary offences, governors charges and prisoner intelligence, for example Julian Knight, had copies of all prisons in Victoria blueprints found in his cell, for a unknown reason. Who or what crim was stabbing and bashing other crims and drug trafficking information and intelligence and the detailed long prior criminal history of a criminals past offences including sex offences called be looked up. Now days in prison, this would not be easy to access and by only a authorised security password granting access to this PIMMS, Prisoner information movements system. And the senior officer now can watch, check out and deny any snooping or unauthorised access, which records who logged on to the Prisoner information.
I have to say, I could find out a lot about inmates, in my day. And I do know more , than you giv me credit for. That why I wasn’t very popular with the hierarchy . as I used to do a lot of snooping on things in my day as a screw !…

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The footage from the commission says so much more. (He was a daddies boy) His dad was boss before him, but this scum-bag was slumped like a school kid 3 thirds through a day at school. Like he did not give a fuck and all this was a inconvenience. Seriously with all respect are the Jewish community this out of touch with main stream Australia or they keep EVERYTHING in HOUSE no mater what happens, is rape, bankruptcy , theft, insider trading and tax evasion all in the same boat. Zipped lips? What a disgrace

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